Why did gus kill juan. " He thinks Gus is gay, which might be true. Bolsa is in the middle of a phone call with Gustavo Fring, accusing him of orchestrating the hit when he is interrupted by the police. Little details like that aren’t to be written off with a show that takes such care in They want him to be scared and to know that he’s gonna be killed. With the twins dead, Gus was able to make a move against the cartel so that he would have the market completely cornered as far as the sale of meth goes, and with the heisenberg recipe, he became the sole provider of the best quality meth in circulation. Gus is responsible for keeping Hector alive; that's why he couldn't kill him until after he killed off the entire cartel. Gus planned to frame Nacho as the rat who betrayed Lalo to a rival Peruvian cartel, called “Los Odios”. In simpler terms, Walt and Gus were far too alike in regards to both individuals wanting to be the boss and By sticking the cousins on a federal agent ans then warning hank about it, not only did it cause a shootout that resulted in the cousins dying but it also caused a big ruckus and set both the US and mexican governments against the cartel. I understand why Gus hated Hector obviously. Reply reply More posts you may like r/breakingbad. Bolsa would never have the balls (pun intended) to actually murder Lalo. Also, do we know why Lalo hates Gus so much? We know why Gus hates Hector Salamanca, and thus all the Salamacas, but the way everyone kisses one another's asses in the cartel, I'm not sure the Salamancas knows Gus hates them. At first, Gus is extremely hesitant to work with Walter because he willingly associates himself with Jesse who, at the time, was using drugs as a coping mechanism for the death of his girlfriend He was one of the founding members of the Cartel alongside Juan Bolsa and Hector Salamanca and became the leader of the operation. Another thing: it's not like Gus to just kill his true enemies, he prefers to keep them as pets and torture them psychologically, think about Don Ector and the Coati story. The odds of his father's survival are higher if there aren't any lasting consequences from his stunt. In season 4 after the murder of gale, Gus wants to replace Walt and kill him as soon as he can. But just like Gus never killed Walter because he knew he wouldn't find a replacement for him easily, I suppose a similar analogy works here. So Bolsa might be aware that Gus and Hector have some issues because of what Hector did, but I doubt he thinks Gus is gunning to kill Eladio or the * entire cartel *. In a jaw-dropping death, Gus dies in the season finale of season four, “Face Off. It seems strange Walt would deliberately ruin his relationship with Gus for Jesse just to continue controlling Jesse, it doesn't make sense for Killing Max(who is the chemist and presumably irreplaceable) to teach Gus a lesson(the guy who is replaceable) strikes me as a bit out of character considering how the cartel is later described in the show i. But when Walt worked with Hector to kill Gus it seemed like Hector also had beef with Gus. As seen in “Sabrosito”, Gus is Bolsa’s cash cow. Walt has barely convinced Gus to spare Jesse after Jesse's failed attempt to kill the His father would have been killed. Does Walt kill Mike? In the sad reality, Jesse was right; Walt did cause Brock’s illness as a way to turn Jesse against Gus. So one had to go, but Gus is clearly connected before all of this. 2-Mike’s ‘Do It’ - I’ve watched new episode multiple times and I get the impression Mike wanted Nacho Honestly you make good points. Gus wanted to blame the assassination on a Peruvian cartel, and set Nacho up as the rat. He killed his lover in a horrific manner and made him watch. "Dirty, dirty people. Share Sort by: ( Juan Bolsa) and lines they are not permitted to cross. Warning! SPOILERS for Better Call Saul season 6, episode 8, "Point and Shoot. After playing the double agent for Gus against the Salamancas and aiding in the botched assassination of Lalo Salamanca (Tony Dalton), Nacho was ready to meet a violent end at the hands of the Mike switched Nacho's safe because he had to get Nacho killed without implicating Gus Fring. After all, Gus has spent years vetting Gail Whittaker and was duty bound to keep her safe. After the attempted assassination of DEA Agent Hank Schrader, the U. He wanted Hank to kill them. So Why Did Gus Kill Victor? Gus killed Victor because Victor eventually came out as an untrustworthy and irresponsible person. He ordered the hitmen to intercept the money and therefore keep Lalo in jail to stop him messing with Gus' business. one of the only occurrences where you see a true smile on Gus’s face. They leave before killing him because Gus texted them to come to pollos. Gus is South American and Hector doesn't trust them. Since Michael Mando first appeared in the Breaking Bad spinoff, violence has This connection at the hip, and the failed attempt to keep Lalo imprisoned is why Bolsa looked so displeased when Lalo gave the car and money to Eladio. And Nacho, in that moment, has zero regrets. Walter sounds like he regret killing Gus. He hired them to protect his interests, and those of the Gus. Walter first thinks Gus killed Victor to 'send a message (intimidation)' Convince Jesse to help out killing Gus. Had he shot Don Juan, his Season 4 of "Breaking Bad" opens with the episode "Box Cutter," which sees Gustavo Fring kill his employee Victor. The cousins were about to kill Walt without any consent from a high level cartel member. Juan Bolsa and Hector make fun of them, and Don Eladio orders Tio to kill Max as punishment for Gus' disrespectful actions. Jesse was poised to rat out Walt if he needed to. Gus allowed the German workers to live depsite them knowing about the secret underground lab. Then there's the fact that he (Gus) made early enemies with Don Eladio. If Walt had simply explained the situation to Gus, Gus had ample resources to simply have Jesse taken out. They knew they would get into trouble after but didn’t care. Archived post. He knows Gus hates him for killing Max. He flew in a team of best engineers he could find, and had no qualms about killing the chief. In the "Sunset" episode, Gus went to meet the cousins in the middle of nowhere, seemingly without any protection. They weren't Juan Bolsa's residence is a hacienda located in Mexico. I understand Gus's obsession with loyalty and servility. The thing you mentioned is the reason why Gus holds a grudge against Hector, but Gus only decided to kill him when he learned that Hector was in contact with the DEA. While at Jesse's house, Walt intercepts a text message meant for Jesse and suspects Jesse is Gus was a major drug kingpin with ties to the Mexican cartel that used his fast-food chain, Los Pollos Hermanos, as a front for his methamphetamine distribution. That's probably a factor. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Walt warns Jesse Pinkman about Hank's investigation and again urges him to kill Gus. Of course, we know what happens when he does finally try to kill him. It was explained that Juan Bolsa hired the contract killers who ambushed Jimmy. Reply reply why didn't Gus just kill Nacho at Lalos compound I was rewatching Season 5 yesterday. The Salamancas knew he betrayed them by facilitating an assassination attempt on Lalo, and the crime family is not known for their cool temperaments. Here's why fans think he did it. " Another wild character death is featured in Better Call Saul season 6, episode 8, and the event also helps explain two of Gus Fring's murders in Breaking Bad. No matter what, he had to kill Bolsa, because he never would’ve gone along with Gus’ plan to destroy the cartel Reply reply YodasSyringe • I imagine he has slightly more respect for bolsa but still needs him out of the picture for the events of salud in any case, the last piece of individuality you get about Gus is a photo of him and Max together, happy. So, why did Gus want to kill Walt? Over time, the relationship between Walt and Gus deteriorated significantly. His Tortuga (Danny Trejo) was a drug runner for the Juárez Cartel under Juan Bolsa (Javier Grajeda). How did Gus surmise that they were hired, and hired by Don Juan, from the tattoo and a brief phone call with him? To understand why Gus killed Victor, it is necessary to delve into the complex relationships and power struggles that were unfolding within the show’s criminal underworld. Some neighbors spotted Victor at the murder scene of Gale, and this could be the reason Gus was annoyed at him. Reply reply why didn't Gus just kill Nacho at Lalos compound Under different circumstances, he'd have Gus killed and coerced Maximino into being his cook. when the First of all I want to clarify I finished Better Call Saul so go ahead with the spoilers. I think it’s important why we transcend and how we transcend, and how we feel about our lives. Walter's thinks Victor got greedy thus Gus killed him. Blatantly, to kill Gus and get revenge for the takeover. e they need Gus because he makes too much money and wont kill him because they would lose money doing so. I think from their perspective Gus was a nebbish businessman who they put in his place when he was younger and he has been a diligent earner since. He arranged the killing of Juan Bolsa and then gives the cousins his 'blessing' to kill Hank. I know Gus messed with him and stuff but it seemed like Im rereading a summery for the Bagman episode and its says, "Juan Bolsa arranged the attack on Jimmy to protect Gus' business. The reason he agreed to the plan and his death was the promise of protecting his father. Gus had Mike plant fake bank transfer documents and the phone number of the motel where Nacho was He could have simply explained the situation to Gus about the danger Jesse presented. Edit: Gus didn’t use this info before At first, Gus is extremely hesitant to work with Walter because he willingly associates himself with Jesse who, at the time, was using drugs as a coping mechanism for the death of his Why did Gus kill Victor with such brutality? Although Gus didn't directly threaten Walt or Jesse following Victor's Breaking Bad execution, he no longer had to. As its final season keeps inching toward its conclusion and connecting with the events of Walter White's story, Better Call Saul In episode 1, Juan Bolsa tells Gus that when they capture Varga, they will find who planned all this. r/breakingbad. The real reason Gus killed Similar to Hank, and perhaps Walter, (though Hank didn't get to physically go out on his own) they ended things on their own terms and were in control until the end. They weren't So throughout Breaking Bad, and even in Better Call Saul, it's no secret that Gus hates the ever living hell out of Hector. He is jealous of Gus's success and how he was won Eladio's favor. I'm currently on a re-watch of Breaking Bad and I'm a little confused about something, which is why Gus chose to spare Walt in episode 11 of season 4. It’s more important why you go. It’s actually the most Zen we’ve probably ever seen him, because he knows who he is. Victor was a loyal henchman of Gus who had been tasked with overseeing the operation of the meth lab after the death of another associate, Gale Boetticher. It is Gus who calls and BCS makes it even more obvious than BB did that Bolsas the only person whose “on his team” and even tried to keep Lalo in jail to protect Gus. His actions might have also contributed to the killing of Gale. In In the dark of the nursing home where Hector "Tio" Salamanca (Mark Margolis) resides, Gus updates the sniffling, bell-dependent Mafioso retiree on his nephews and the recent killing of But instead of punishing Walt and Jesse, Gus unexpectedly killed Victor before their eyes. Just as Walt described just before Gus killed Victor. S. The cleaning ladies at the laundromat were well trained and loyal, so I don't see why he'd kill them. Reply reply I’m still not 100% sure exactly why he killed Victor (multiple possible reasons). Jesse is as much as a liability to Gus as Walt was so I don’t get why he wanted Jesse to replace Walt. Gus knows this, but still kills him before When Lalo was killed for real by Gus for real Hector arranged a meeting with Bolsa and Eladio revealing Lalo faked his death and attempted to exact vengeance on Gus only for be killed Juan Bolsa is Gus’ handler for the cartel. They had tried to get permission from Gus but he refused. Only question is did Nacho and Mike hatch the second plan with Nacho killing himself, instead of having Gus's man kill him running away. So he may needed to kill Victor because he failed to protect Gail, but he's going to keep Jesse and Walter alive as a punishment reserved only for the worst. The truth though is, this is Gus's move to take power back from the cartel. So nacho figured out that Gus had no plan to come get him and tyrus was making sure nacho didn’t leave. Walt organized the murder of Gale, had a brother-in-law in the DEA, and was far too intelligent and arrogant for his own good. Michael Mando's Nacho was having a rough time when Better Call Saul season 6 began. In episode 1, Juan Bolsa tells Gus that when they capture Varga, they will find who planned all this. My best explanation is that he thought lalo would at least be more limited in his power to disrupt gus in prison even if he knew about the fire. Bolsa and Hector hold Gus down, forcing him to look in the eyes of his deceased partner, while Don Eladio taunted Gus, telling him to stay away from the Cartel. Because even if Jesse survived the showdown, Gus will still hunt Jesse down and kill him for this. Sure there was a process, but to get the Lalo had been trying to mess with Gus' operation throughout most of Season 5 (the Cartel, through Juan Bolsa knows about this) and there is known bad blood between Gus and the Salamancas since Lalo's uncle, Hector Salamanca murdered Gus' close friend, Max. A subreddit for fans and critics of the hit television series Breaking Bad on AMC. Killing Bolsa and the Salamancas would have cause a huge problem within the Cartel and Gus would likely have his father killed as a result of this insubordination and for causing an incoming shit storm. Having his family and cartel members killing one by one over time, going over to that nursing home to tell the disabled Hector, who can do nothing but avoid eye contact with Gus and make a furious face, etc. We all go. With Jesse killed, Walt could have laid low and cooked with Gus, making money hand over fist, with no Also, do we know why Lalo hates Gus so much? We know why Gus hates Hector Salamanca, and thus all the Salamacas, but the way everyone kisses one another's asses in the cartel, I'm not sure the Salamancas knows Gus hates them. Plus I don't know that he actually had anything As for the order to kill him, I think gus was just covering his bases, he gave the final order after Mike told him he was on the phone talking about the project to someone claiming to be part of Gus's organization, he allowed Mike to find him and I believe he was going to allow him to live until Mike told him about the phone conversation with Lalo. This is why juans house was raided and he was killed, and this also completely cut off any cartel supply Tbh I have asked the same question but I mainly believe it was two things. Either way, the two of them working together meant potential competition in the drug trade. government pressured the Mexican government for a response, causing Mexican Federales to raid Juan Bolsa's home. I’m unclear about a few things. We all transcend. He became an informant for the DEA and was killed for his betrayal by Marco and Leonel Salamanca Gus wanted the Cartel / Salamancas to kill Nacho, so that Gus wouldn’t be the prime suspect of orchestrating Lalo’s assassination. I think Gus was trying to get nacho killed because he knew the cartel would take him alive which would reveal Gus (I think). Gus wants Lalo in Mexico so that he can kill him with a minimal risk of being associated with the kill. The way I see it, Gus is all about resourcefulness. Gus always hated Hector, when what’s his name swapped the meds in BCS it was Gus’ chance to take everything Hector worked for as his own and build it in his own image. Of course, this turns out to be one of the decisions that work against Gus when Walt is able to successfully convince Jesse that he poisoned Brock just to drive them against each other. ” What makes this episode so unique is the title itself, which is ironic seeing as Gus Fring By not killing Juan Bolsa or reneging on his pact with Gus, Nacho finds his perfect Better Call Saul ending. After all, they let Gus handle Hector's medical care, which was a weird plot hole. So Walter is saying there was no point to kill Gus. But why doesn’t he feel the same way about Jesse, the one who actually killed him. Like the mafia, you don't kill a made man without approval from the boss. Jesse caused the killing of two of Gus’ people and killed Gale. Reply reply The chaos caused by Gus' attempt to kill Lalo, fuelling tensions with the Salamancas, and Nacho's fate all ultimately rests upon his decision making, which then means it's something he But he didn't actually want to kill them. First and foremost, Gus is the exact antithisis of what Hector sees as a man. Due to . Bolsa realized that Lalo was messing with Gus’ business up north, so he thought he was protecting Caught between the rock of Gus Fring and the hard place of the Salamancas, Nacho agrees to cover up Fring's involvement in the unsuccessful Lalo assassination and sacrifice his life. And it isn’t like Gus was going to leave him there, did he? And if he was, then why would he want to kill another victim? At this time, Gus is still working with the Mexican cartel. Essentially he was leading the twins into a trap by putting them on Hank. How did Walter White kill Gus? When it comes to unforgettable Breaking Bad content So, why did Gus kill Victor? Well, first of all, he could have easily killed another victim like he did with Hector. Gus is gay which Hector dislikes. The cartel killed his former Image via AMC. Juan Bolsa was the one who hired the colombian gang to steal the 7 million dollars from Saul in the desert (or that is what I understood with the conversation between Gus and Mike) but I don't understand why would Juan Bolsa want to do that if that money was from the Salamancas. Why didn't the cousins just kill Gus there? Gus gets too much free pass. Is it simply because Jesse would likely have been killed during the showdown. However, the way I see it, Walt is trying to save Jesse - but mainly from Gus. To free himself from the Gus induced nightmare he was in. " Maybe I'm having a brain fart but how is taking the money and killing Jimmy protecting Gus? They want him to be scared and to know that he’s gonna be killed. So why did Gus not kill Jesse? I just think that Gus could blackmail Walt to make him cook by threatening his family. It was a hostile He did save Jesse, killing 2 of Gus' guys in the process which only hurt Walt's relationship with Gus, so Jesse was more important to Walt than a cozy job making meth and making millions risk free. Juan Bolsa (not a Salamanca) is the underboss that oversees their and Gus' operations. Gus died, now Walter thinks Victor's death is not intimidation. His shocking and brutal death showed that Gus wasn't afraid to kill his own. This led to Hectors partner being killed (Breaking Bad) Then in Better Call Saul: Hector and Gus were competing for control of the region of New Mexico. when the Hector pretended to be a rat as part of Walt's scheme to lure Gus to the nursing home. Not to mention the fact that Gus was willing to No matter what, he had to kill Bolsa, because he never would’ve gone along with Gus’ plan to destroy the cartel Reply reply YodasSyringe • I imagine he has slightly more respect for bolsa but still needs him out of the picture for the events of salud His father would have been killed. zpvni esgiz ckfel dnpv hcw teqkt vwwtncp gcegqr enka alpm